Do 17Z-3 (3458) 5K+GN of 5/KG3 shot down by Pilot Officer P.J.T. The family still have the parachute handle given to my aunt at the time. We are researching local history for the village. Ian. I am trying to find any information on a german plane that crashed on Combe Hill, Berkshire. I do not know if the site I visited was called Poynings Spring. He served in the BEF the Royal Engineers blowing up bridges during the retreat to Dunkirk. When you say other books does that include Luftwaffe Crash Archives Vol 2? He was very young my mother thought just a teenager and very frightened. Best regards, DaveP. I have looked at some records of Luftwaffe crashes but only for the period January 1941 December 1942. What I am particularly interested in is where their remains were interred prior to being moved to Cannock after WWII. The bomber crashed on the edge of RAF Kenley and its hardly likely that the remains would have been transported all that distance to Litlington. Maybe they were Navy Kriegsmarine personnel washed ashore? Details from LUFTWAFFE CRASH ARCHIVE by Nigel Parker. Battle over Sussex 1940, Blitz over Sussex 1941-42 and Bombers over Sussex 1943-45, For more detail on Luftwaffe specific losses look no further than the Luftwaffe Crash Archive series by Nigel Parker, Thanks for all that Simon. Each year We went hop picking to the farm As I grew up I used to walk to the crash site With childhood curiosity and stare at the ground. Does anyone have information about a German plane that crashed at Saddlescombe, just north of Brighton, Sussex? As a boy I visited the site two days after the event with a schoolfriend and found a small piece of metal with a screw. We used old photos from newspapers to help pinpoint the location of a Luftwaffe crash site on the east coast of Yorkshire last year. Someone had painted the crosses with the names of four German airmen, with rank, serial numbers, etc. Narrows it down a lot. WebKent's towns were bombed throughout the war and casualties on the ground were often heavy in spite of the fact that thousands of people went underground to avoid the raids. Great stuff. Regards. The aircraft was a Bf110D-0 Wn.3373 S9+BH and it crashed on Friday 6 September 1940 at Flow Meadow, Foyle Farm, Crowhurst at 0915 hours. He thinks it was the winter of 1940 as was very wet and muddy. Oberlt H. Becker-Ross, Oberfw G. Bruckner, Fw A. Hansen and Fw W. Brinkmann were all killed and their unidentified remains were buried in All Saints Churchyard, Staplehurst. The original CCJS had been destroyed by firebombs and the Fire Brigade HQ was also destroyed. Anyone know details or more precise location? 
Will come back with more memories later. Heres a story for all you researchers, On the 2nd of September 1940 My mother was returning to The Hurst Farm hop fields with the groceries .. I suppose those young German lads either got taken back home or were interred at Cannock Chase. My Daughter has Recently moved to a new housing development near to where the old Runwell Hospital in Essex used to be and Ive been interested in the where a German bomber came down near to where her house is built now. Since I own all of these documents to Schmitter it made me a bit more motivated, as you might imagine, to find all I could about his career. Thank you so much. Ok will take a look anyway, see whats recorded. Required fields are marked *. The fact that those young men all died on the same date suggest otherwise. Its such a clear story, I imagine (kiss of death here) we should be able to identify it. 
ww2 plane crash sites map kent. Another two crash-landed in France. Dear Simon Helmuts daughter later married. I found site looking for information on a downed German bomber somewhere in Neath marshes during Swansea blitz and talked about by local people at the time but i have failed to back up the story told to me a few years ago. The crash spot is identified as B13 on Map B on Page 9. It could be Ju88 L1 + BM which was shot down at Hazeley Down at Twyford at 1800 on 15 August 1940 by a fighter of 601 squadron (at the time they were flying Hurricanes though one forum entry on line mentions the Ju88 being shot down by a Spitfire). I have pre-ordered the book and early in February will use that to try to find your aircraft if I havent stumbled across it before then (I will keep looking meanwhile, might find it wIthout the index). Do17Z-2 Wn3230 U5+ET is described as having been shot down at Nine Acre wood, Kilndown at 15.15 on the 15th. B17G 42-31243 ditched in Sandwich Bay after returning from a mission on the 1st December 1943, when it ran out of fuel due to flak damage to the fuel tanks. Judging by the empty hop garden and the warm clothing this is either very early in 1940 or The aeroplane was described as an Me109, but that might be just an embellishment. They looked quite odd, laid out alongside all those ancient, moldering gravestones. The plane was shot down near Oakford in North Devon, my wifes grandfather arrested the pilot dads army style and took him up to Tiverton police station. co-incidentaly I too now live in Australia. Think I have found it Kay, details from page linked below; This German bomber was attacked by a Mosquito from 29 Squadron crewed by Flight Lieutenant S. F. Hodsman and Warrant Officer A. F. Monger. 
Really need the date so that Ian can look at Parkers Crash Archives. Four of the crew from the bomber later met up with Wing Commander Peter Ayerst in 1988. Hi Gerald, there was a German bomber which crashed at Poynings Spring, Saddlescombe on the night of 1 June 1941. My Dad distinctly remembers a Luftwaffe aircraft being shot down,possibly by anti aircraft fire over Sneinton and him seeing the pilot floating northwards on a parachute.He has no idea of the date of the type of aircraft but it was broad daylight. Any clues as to where both men came down, hopefully not on Manstons doorstep! My family history research had hit a brickwall but within the last few days (April 2016), a stroke of luck and a report in national newspapers of 24.03.1939 identified a RAF plane crash just before WW2 on 23.03.1939. a) if he tampers with, damages, moves, removes or unearths the remains; Which makes it perfectly clear that it is illegal to carry out such an activity without the granting of a License for such an activity. Needham could find no more to confirm the story. Its a pity I cant remember where exactly it was shot down as this might help. In an earlier recollection she focussed on just two crew (so maybe a fighter bomber or light bomber?) Hoping someone, in particular with local Welsh knowledge, can provide details of the incident and perhaps photographs the aircraft and aircrew. Who knows? My dad served in the Royal Navy from 38-45, he and his mates were of the same opinion, he had respect for his enemy. Simon. The aircraft departed from a seaplane base at RAF Invergordon on the Cromarty Firth at 13:05 GMT on I am looking to find the data for the ME109, pilot name, staffel etc. I have a copy of Blitz over Sussex 1941-42 but cannot find any reference to a German aircraft crashing at Saddlescombe. Will take a look later Peter, see if I have anything on it. I am still haunted by the discovery of four wooden crosses in Litlington (Sussex) church yard around 1950/51, which are no longer there, and which bore the names of four German airmen, I went back to look at the 1978 Bryan Philpott book GERMAN BOMBERS OVER ENGLAND. Just to add to the confusion the lake at Horsmonden was searched some years ago as it was alleged a German bomber crashed into it but nothing was ever found. I only have volume 2 and I can find no one of that name, including phonetic variations. Lay buried with the pilot for thirty seven years I stood as a child each year for many of those years feeling sad that he was down there in his mangled wreak of his Emil ME 109, There is a sequel to this story. And there is a reference to a German aircraft being shot down in the sea at Seaford but not found anything yet matching your description. Re; sound mirrors, I first saw them on the coast path around Dover and Folkestone, theres loads of stuff there too. Might anyone have further data. Im only just discovering the history of the area in more detail now as I dont have to commute to London any more. I have purchased an aircraft panel piece on ebay. I have looked at every page of Parkers volumes, paying attention to any that are in Sussex. Church burial records are stored in THEKEEP@EASTSUSSEX.GOV.UK and I would love to go there, but I am 83 and living in a small corner of Texas and my traveling days are over, so that is not going to happen. 1 other I belive was bomber pilot died when plane crashed near Seaford. All i know is that Uffz Wemhoner survived and ended up as a POW. I continue to be haunted by the discovery of 4 white wooden crosses in the hilltop, Litlington (East Sussex) church cemetery while hiking sometime in 1951/52. Battle Rural District bore the brunt of V1s shot down. link, Photo of Ofw Herman Platt who died near Litlington when his parachute failed to open, Map showing the golf course, Rathfinny Farm and Litlington. but I believe it should be done as a sign of respect to all those young men on both sides who died in this terrible conflict. I was able to identify all of the crew, and they are buried in the same plot, the same row, and in consecutive-numbered graves. 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Will come back with more memories later. Heres a story for all you researchers, On the 2nd of September 1940 My mother was returning to The Hurst Farm hop fields with the groceries .. I suppose those young German lads either got taken back home or were interred at Cannock Chase. My Daughter has Recently moved to a new housing development near to where the old Runwell Hospital in Essex used to be and Ive been interested in the where a German bomber came down near to where her house is built now. Since I own all of these documents to Schmitter it made me a bit more motivated, as you might imagine, to find all I could about his career. Thank you so much. Ok will take a look anyway, see whats recorded. Required fields are marked *. The fact that those young men all died on the same date suggest otherwise. Its such a clear story, I imagine (kiss of death here) we should be able to identify it. ww2 plane crash sites map kent. Another two crash-landed in France. Dear Simon Helmuts daughter later married. I found site looking for information on a downed German bomber somewhere in Neath marshes during Swansea blitz and talked about by local people at the time but i have failed to back up the story told to me a few years ago. The crash spot is identified as B13 on Map B on Page 9. It could be Ju88 L1 + BM which was shot down at Hazeley Down at Twyford at 1800 on 15 August 1940 by a fighter of 601 squadron (at the time they were flying Hurricanes though one forum entry on line mentions the Ju88 being shot down by a Spitfire). I have pre-ordered the book and early in February will use that to try to find your aircraft if I havent stumbled across it before then (I will keep looking meanwhile, might find it wIthout the index). Do17Z-2 Wn3230 U5+ET is described as having been shot down at Nine Acre wood, Kilndown at 15.15 on the 15th. B17G 42-31243 ditched in Sandwich Bay after returning from a mission on the 1st December 1943, when it ran out of fuel due to flak damage to the fuel tanks. Judging by the empty hop garden and the warm clothing this is either very early in 1940 or The aeroplane was described as an Me109, but that might be just an embellishment. They looked quite odd, laid out alongside all those ancient, moldering gravestones. The plane was shot down near Oakford in North Devon, my wifes grandfather arrested the pilot dads army style and took him up to Tiverton police station. co-incidentaly I too now live in Australia. Think I have found it Kay, details from page linked below; This German bomber was attacked by a Mosquito from 29 Squadron crewed by Flight Lieutenant S. F. Hodsman and Warrant Officer A. F. Monger. Really need the date so that Ian can look at Parkers Crash Archives. Four of the crew from the bomber later met up with Wing Commander Peter Ayerst in 1988. Hi Gerald, there was a German bomber which crashed at Poynings Spring, Saddlescombe on the night of 1 June 1941. My Dad distinctly remembers a Luftwaffe aircraft being shot down,possibly by anti aircraft fire over Sneinton and him seeing the pilot floating northwards on a parachute.He has no idea of the date of the type of aircraft but it was broad daylight. Any clues as to where both men came down, hopefully not on Manstons doorstep! My family history research had hit a brickwall but within the last few days (April 2016), a stroke of luck and a report in national newspapers of 24.03.1939 identified a RAF plane crash just before WW2 on 23.03.1939. a) if he tampers with, damages, moves, removes or unearths the remains; Which makes it perfectly clear that it is illegal to carry out such an activity without the granting of a License for such an activity. Needham could find no more to confirm the story. Its a pity I cant remember where exactly it was shot down as this might help. In an earlier recollection she focussed on just two crew (so maybe a fighter bomber or light bomber?) Hoping someone, in particular with local Welsh knowledge, can provide details of the incident and perhaps photographs the aircraft and aircrew. Who knows? My dad served in the Royal Navy from 38-45, he and his mates were of the same opinion, he had respect for his enemy. Simon. The aircraft departed from a seaplane base at RAF Invergordon on the Cromarty Firth at 13:05 GMT on I am looking to find the data for the ME109, pilot name, staffel etc. I have a copy of Blitz over Sussex 1941-42 but cannot find any reference to a German aircraft crashing at Saddlescombe. Will take a look later Peter, see if I have anything on it. I am still haunted by the discovery of four wooden crosses in Litlington (Sussex) church yard around 1950/51, which are no longer there, and which bore the names of four German airmen, I went back to look at the 1978 Bryan Philpott book GERMAN BOMBERS OVER ENGLAND. Just to add to the confusion the lake at Horsmonden was searched some years ago as it was alleged a German bomber crashed into it but nothing was ever found. I only have volume 2 and I can find no one of that name, including phonetic variations. Lay buried with the pilot for thirty seven years I stood as a child each year for many of those years feeling sad that he was down there in his mangled wreak of his Emil ME 109, There is a sequel to this story. And there is a reference to a German aircraft being shot down in the sea at Seaford but not found anything yet matching your description. Re; sound mirrors, I first saw them on the coast path around Dover and Folkestone, theres loads of stuff there too. Might anyone have further data. Im only just discovering the history of the area in more detail now as I dont have to commute to London any more. I have purchased an aircraft panel piece on ebay. I have looked at every page of Parkers volumes, paying attention to any that are in Sussex. Church burial records are stored in THEKEEP@EASTSUSSEX.GOV.UK and I would love to go there, but I am 83 and living in a small corner of Texas and my traveling days are over, so that is not going to happen. 1 other I belive was bomber pilot died when plane crashed near Seaford. All i know is that Uffz Wemhoner survived and ended up as a POW. I continue to be haunted by the discovery of 4 white wooden crosses in the hilltop, Litlington (East Sussex) church cemetery while hiking sometime in 1951/52. Battle Rural District bore the brunt of V1s shot down. link, Photo of Ofw Herman Platt who died near Litlington when his parachute failed to open, Map showing the golf course, Rathfinny Farm and Litlington. but I believe it should be done as a sign of respect to all those young men on both sides who died in this terrible conflict. I was able to identify all of the crew, and they are buried in the same plot, the same row, and in consecutive-numbered graves. 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