This scabbard also has an original leather field cover, which has discolored and shrunk over time. All Images and Text Copyright 2003-2023 International Military Antiques Inc. All Rights Reserved. Your email address will not be published. I was so stupid to have some and sold it - for better swords. Everything to know Japanese 95 nco swordPlease visit our Ebay store and subscribe to our channel https://www.ebay.com/str/thediamondmonkey42You will find in . Stick to reliable sources more Han ever if you want to avoid getting burnt ! Dan. There are also numerous reproduction and fake Japanese swords on These items are purchased for the quality of the carving only. The serial #'s are the best place to focus IMHO. WW II Japanese early second pattern WWII Type 95 NCO shin gunto with matching numbered scabbard. An elite marksman. If the blade is aluminum, the sword is not I searched into the rest of the Japanese items on the site. swords may likewise not be sharpened down to the habaki; however, most WW II swords were not. Powered by Invision Community, Sword Shows, Events, Community News and Legislation Issues, Military Swords of Imperial Japan - Ohmura San, Nihonto-Japanese Swords as Art - John Eliyas, The Token Society of GB - Scotland Branch, Nanka Token Kai - Southern California Japanese Sword Society, Japanese Sword Society of the United States, The Society for the Promotion of Japanese Sword Culture (NBSK), The Japanese Sword Society of the United States, Nederlandse Tken Vereniging - Netherlands, San Francisco Nipponto Society *caution, http://mountcastlesantiques.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=18&products_id=277, http://mountcastlesantiques.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=18&products_id=276&zenid=qot0424cgushvekob07rapkkq2. June 23, 2016. like many dealers, there main concern is profit, regardless of the piece being a reproduction. The overall length is approximately 38 inches in the scabbard. Scabbard in very nice condition. There should be no characters etched on the blade, just a serial number. Overall the fit and finish is definitely far above a replica, which can be seen in the photos. A World War II Type 95 Japanese Army NCO sword on which the sword blade and scabbard both have matching serial numbers. The painted handle and scabbard color look very nice, even though there were still some parts not correct compared to the real one, but it will fool a lot of people. Neil. These are all machine made and are not classified as "Nihonto". Sponsored. WW2 Imperial Japanese Type 95 pattern Army NCO's sword, sold In good condition and with matching sword vs scabbard serial numbers, this is a 100% guaranteed authentic WW2 Imperial Japanese Type 95 pattern Army NCO's sword / katana. Many will have some type of engraving, usually floral, on the blade. The matching serial numbers indicate the sword was taken off All NCO swords were numbered. A World War II Type 95 Japanese Army NCO sword on which the sword blade and scabbard both have matching serial numbers. Screws. Usually the copies are considerably lower, making it very obvious. I admit that I've had to look at it a couple of times. Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 921(a)(16) defines antique firearms as all guns manufactured prior to 1899. Most soldiers and citizens surrendered their swords to the American occupying forces. About eBay; NCO copper tsuka (handle) that is actually painted on top of the handle, I have not seen that before. Something went wrong. I probably say this way too much BUT to flog a dead horse, the NCOs have a ton of small variations between subcontractors and between batches themselves, so just something to keep in mind. Free shipping. There are some Chinese replicas of these out there, however this sword is definitely genuine. I'm not an expert on Japanese swords, so I'll be glad with the maximum information on this Type 95. Description. As I said in the other NCO topic. The scabbard shows some surface corrosion, but still retails about 50% of its army green paint. Look at the bohi at the kissaki and the arsenal marks are terrible! Sword canes (Shikomi-zue) mostly have very low grade blades. Writing about whatever interests me, and maybe you. It's a reissued one like one in Fuller & Gregory's book. Let's sum up. They are referred to as "hocho tetsu" (kitchen steel) - a most derogatory term in sword circles. The blades in these items are all "soft steel" and have etched temperlines swords. The blade on this copy above is not made bad in my opinion and it becomes better. The fuller on a real T95 goes almost to the habaki (collar), the brass part around the blade just above the tsuba/guard. The Type 95 NCO sword is similar in appearance to officers Type 94 and Type 98 Shin-gunt military swords, but is made of lower quality materials, most notably its hilt, which is made from metal and the scabbard was similar to that of the Type 32 with a prominent drag. But it would really help to see that. National Guard Marksmanship Training Center. Sometimes they just forget this part. Used In good condition! Could someone simply call the most obvious differences from the original? Something changed in the last 6 months. This example has a matching serial number 93225 on both the blade and the throat of the scabbard. There are stories that the small papers between the handle wrap (ito) and However, it is ultimately the responsibility of the buyer to be in compliance of laws that govern their specific location. Imperial Japanese Army (IJA) Type 95 NCO Shin Gunto. One thing I also saw while researching is the nightmare of the number of fakes out there. & valuations. Saw these photos of a fake Type 95. Have always thought the comments about not tipping off the forgers are just plain silly.I still do.The image of some rough factory in China where they are turning these outand some guy on a computer somewhere shouting out in Chinese into the factory "Hey guys! Consult someone who is trained in tsuka-maki if you need to have a handle re-built. By Sorry for the bad news. Wayne i would have called bad on it, think F&G early book had balls that big, remember two diff stacked ball stamp, or not, memory, lol, i jest. another example where they got the product near correct but numbered it wrong. DO NOT UNWRAP THE HANDLE! It now takes an expert to tell the difference between a Chinese $25 copy ROLEX and the real deal, right down to the automatic movement. Sincerely, Eugene Quote vajo Gold Tier 5.8k Location:Germany / Bavaria Name: Chris Sch. Also, they definitely like those brass tsukas, don't they! The serial number on the throat of the scabbard, 65830 matches that of the blade. This page was last updated: 04-Mar 05:55. Your previous content has been restored. This is a great and guaranteed genuine Japanese NCO's Type 95 sword that was carried by a career soldier. This law exempts antique firearms from any form of gun control or special engineering. The overall swords are getting better. Your link has been automatically embedded. The biggest giveaway are the stamps. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. 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About 80,000 of the Ko sabers were produced between 1899 and 1936, with the lowest reported serial number being 1175 and the highest one being 83390. The great majority of these swords are made of carved bone, not ivory. One, they aren't in the correct range. Etchings. Your link has been automatically embedded. There are two NCO late stage on Ebay now. Funny story Paul. http://ohmura-study.net/790.html. Matching serial numbers 31123. If the tsuka can be dismanteld from sword with out removing the sarute and barrel, its a fake! This is a very scarce and important very early production Japanese Army Type 95 NCO Sword. Every musket, rifle, display machine gun, machine gun parts set or gun sold by IMA, Inc is engineered to be inoperable according to guidelines provided by the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATF). An etched temper line will be seen as a smooth cloud lacking any internal features. Yeah I guess Japanese military swords don't get much attention from the well known names. signed or not has little to do with determining if it is handmade or the age of the blade. Eligible for all payments - Visa, Mastercard, Discover, AMEX, Paypal, Amazon & Sezzle. The hilt is complete with a functional metal locking spring tab that secures the blade to the scabbard. The Scabbardlooks to have some paint left, however it is under the leather cover, which we have not removed, so we do not know how much still remains. For questions or accessibility help - please call (908) 903-1200. Display as a link instead, Steves last post real or copy? If there are serial numbers stamped in the blade, it is a machine made WWII Japanese Army Type 95 Tokyo Arsenal NCO Shin-Gunto Sword $ 895.00 A World War II Type 95 Japanese Army NCO sword on which the sword blade and scabbard both have matching serial numbers. They sell it for 165 EUR everywhere. As with most Axis arms, late war versions of the Type 95 (with wooden tsuba) and are poorly constructed in comparison to those that preceded them in the development line but as a quirk of fate are often more collectible. The NMB says so!" If the blade is not sharp all the way to the habaki does not assure it is a WW II era blade, but is is signed, that it must be hand made. By law, Japanese citizens were forbidden to own swords. I'm not going to go into details. China has a rising group of wealthy individuals who are buying up cars, gold, realeatate, antiques and art at an alarming rate. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for WW2 Type 30 Arisaka Japanese Bayonet Scabbard Straight Quillon Imperial Army No. It comes with the original bag it came home from the war in. Paste as plain text instead, Hope he listens. Amounts shown in italicized text are for items listed in currency other than U.S. dollars and are approximate conversions to U.S. dollars based upon Bloomberg's conversion rates. There is not much more complicated (and valuable) as ROLEX watches. However, just because the blade is steel does not mean it is a genuine Japanese sword as many modern replicas are made with steel blades. It is something I very much dread, having to carefully vet every sword I see, but that's what happens when something increases in value at a steady rate each and every year. View cart for details. late, now sold). This would fool most entry level guys. military type swords are also being reproduced today. A new sword was pointed out to me recently which is very well made and in fact at first glance addresses a lot of the issues with obvious fakes. The grip wrapping and menuki are cast-formed. Not just Gunto but Napoleonic ,K98 bayonets you name itSo look out in the future! Serial range could be wrong as well but, I cant see them. But a small percentage made its way back to the United States and into the collector market. Upload or insert images from URL. I use it to post different and new varieties of fake 95s. Fakes never get it right. kink one side but is overall very good for its age; the locking Here is my last IJA type 95 copper handle nco sword the I own. Free shipping for many products! Real swords only had flat-head screws. Gun magazine laws, concealed weapons laws, laws governing new made display guns, airsoft guns, blank fire guns, and other items vary greatly by nation, state and locality. Your previous content has been restored. Can anyone tell me more about the sword than a cursory googling has resulted? They just copy the real swords they import.Just comment what you like, you are not changing anything. to another sword / scabbard. And even if your intentions are completely legitimate, the "bad guys" are still out there and could read this post. good condition, a few small patina streaks, nothing much, and firm Typical WWII Imperial Japanese Army style fittings, with a single suspension ring from the scabbard, known as the "New Military Sword" (shin guntou) style. You cannot paste images directly. a good first indicator. Pasted as rich text. Sword canes (Shikomi-zue) mostly have very low grade blades. Many modern replicas and iaito have aluminum blades. Upload or insert images from URL. Posted October 27, 2017 "Ninja swords" are a Hollywood fiction. NCO Katanas were issued to soldiers who did not want to take their family sword to battle or who came from poor families that did not have swords to pass down through the generations. That's why I addressed here. People can scoff at paranoia as much as you like but the simple fact is they are getting better, whether through study of originals or reading well intentioned post. IMA works diligently to be aware of these ever changing laws and obeys them accordingly. Paste as plain text instead, But a small percentage made its way back to the United States and into the collector market. There are old sword blades which have no visible grain (muji hada); however, the presence of grain does You can post now and register later. In very good condition, an early WW2 1935M (Type 95) Japanese There are so many. In my searches, I've compiled a list of things that (usually Chinese) reproductions get wrong. Even so, enough to fool a novice. this rare early solid copper handled sword, serial number 631 is all matching and it is also one of the very few known to exist that still has the original leather tassel hanger (saru-te). or old wood sticks. I agree, once they start nailing the kissaki and proper proportions it will be a minefield out there. In Germany the only plattform for weapons is egun. no interest to Japanese sword collectors. Unfortunately, the scabbards serial number does not match the swords . WWII JAPANESE TYPE 98 ARMY SHIN-GUNTO SWORD!!! A real hamon Second the Font isn't even close. Mission Ready, Qualified & Competent, On Time Execution! Buy It Now. Japanese swords will have a visible grain in the steel of the blade. I'm not trying to be rude, but we don't know you and your authenticity in your posted reasons to be here. The end of WWII marked the beginning of the sword ownership ban in Japan. I liked the look of the Type 32 but all I've found was deepeeka. locking mechanism works very well. Brass hilt. lonely panet. Today I checked, just in case the sword was pulled from sale, and lo and behold there is a 'rare copper handle' now listed, clearly of the same manufacturer. The collctors in China can spot the fake easily as well,and they pay more than us to get the real ones. Ivory has a distinctive grain. on a single criteria. Clear editor. The scabbards and hilts are usually designed to resemble bamboo or old wood sticks. This is why the education side of collecting is so important!! However, it is ultimately the responsibility of the buyer to be in compliance of laws that govern their specific location. from China The painted handle and scabbard color look very nice, even though there were still some parts not correct compared to the real one, but it will fool a lot of people, like many dealers, there main concern is profit, regardless of the piece being a reproduction. Learn how your comment data is processed. So all of these swords are offered on egun.de, schwertshop.de and other german sellers. Arsenal stamps do not appear on pre-1930's blades. once told the facts they simply. Blade length approximately 27 1/2 inches . For questions or accessibility help - please call (908) 903-1200. Hi I'm a newly signed up member of the site. You can post now and register later. NCOs will progress into the minefield of German militaria in the next couple of decades. once told the facts they simply try and sell it on at the same price they paid, to avoid a loss of money instead of learning from there mistakes. sword clubs in many cities. the tsuka casting made me look 3 times, but just look at the stamps on the nakago, Ok, a little later I will add a photo of the unpainted serial numbers. I am extremely thankful for the help/knowledge shared in this forum. at the best online prices at eBay! the rayskin (same') are prayer papers to protect the soldier in battle. The scabbards and hilts are usually designed to resemble bamboo Steel is magnetic - aluminum is not. By placing an order, the buyer represents that he/she is in compliance with the law and will utilize the items in a lawful manner. This fine example is a genuine WWII Japanese Type 95 NCO Samurai Sword or katana with aluminum handle construction and machine made blade. The Americans destroyed a large number of swords by dumping them into the ocean or by melting them. - it will reduce its value by at least 50 percent!! The blades are very straight and thin and often have significant flaws. I am not sure why the serial numbers are covered? Sword Shows, Events, Community News and Legislation Issues, Military Swords of Imperial Japan - Ohmura San, Nihonto-Japanese Swords as Art - John Eliyas, The Token Society of GB - Scotland Branch, Nanka Token Kai - Southern California Japanese Sword Society, Japanese Sword Society of the United States, The Society for the Promotion of Japanese Sword Culture (NBSK), The Japanese Sword Society of the United States, Nederlandse Tken Vereniging - Netherlands, San Francisco Nipponto Society *caution. On newer swords the file marks on the tang will be sharp and crisp. C $158.47 + C $66.38 . and scabbards were frequently separated and ended up being "married" Maybe he is just one of the many merchants capitalising on a class of people with more money than they know what to do with. Sure, there's lots of other details like proof marks to look for, but these 5 things are just glaringly obvious and easy to see in pictures, and one or more seems to be on every single repro sword out there, so they're quick and easy ways to ID fakes. Complete with metal locking spring tab that secures the blade to the scabbard. The early serial number shows this sword saw service throughout A lot of people buy it and some weeks later you can buy it as a original NCO Sword.. It's also really interesting that it looks like the original serial numbers on the scabbard and blade matched before they were ground. The grip wrapping and menuki are cast-formed. This fine example is a genuine WWII Japanese Type 95 NCO Samurai Sword or katana with aluminum handle construction and machine made blade. Bone tanto and swords (see below) fall into this group. Opens in a new window or tab. Gun magazine laws, concealed weapons laws, laws governing new made display guns, airsoft guns, blank fire guns, and other items vary greatly by nation, state and locality. I really would have liked better pictures of the fuchi in light and the serial numbers, but I am very confident this is a well made reproduction. antique or of recent vintage. There is a suspicion that this is a fake. The seppa is a clear fake, and like everyone else said, the bo-hi starts too far down the blade and the tip is round (like a Nagoya). Most swords do not have matching numbers because somewhere along the life of the sword the scabbard was changed. The process of tsuka-maki (handle wrapping) is quite complicated. October 27, 2017 in Military Swords of Japan. Swords with carved bone handles and scabbards are The grip still retains much of its brown paint, being approximately 70% intact, and the golden yellow paint on the cherry blossom menuki is approximately 50% intact. Real swords, decorative, historical, fantasy; humor, social, ID requests, shopping help, art; all sword-related topics are welcome (we are not very strict about topicality)! General McCarthur did not want the general population to be able to arm again. Even the once "lowly" type 95 NCO sword has started to command high prices. These items are of Sorry Its not even a good fake. WW II era swords will show prominent grain (hada). The 67 cm (not including the habaki) blade is in near mint condition. There are genuine collectors throughout China too. Vice versa, antique blades are occassionally found The brown paint on the hilt has mostly worn away, as it did not really stick well to the aluminum. See each listing for international shipping options and costs. Around $1.000. As originally produced the saber included a leather finger loop inside of the guard, which was riveted to the basket guard. like many dealers, there main concern is profit, regardless of the piece being a reproduction. Also many Chinese military swords are confused with Japanese swords. Short fuller. The real tsukas have crisp detail, and the fakes always seem not-crisp. $4200. the Japanese soldier, not an end of war mass surrender item (swords No single indicator alone will determine whether a sword blade is an $159.50. I don't want to help them any more than necessary. Celebrating the Past, Present and Future of Navy Cryptology, Official site for National Guard marksmanship training & competitions. A real one would also be fine, but is too expensive for me. Not just Gunto but Napoleonic ,K98 bayonets you name itSo look out in the future ! Most soldiers and citizens surrendered their swords to the American occupying forces. I very much doubt that it would matter, but even someone with a repro would be able to use that information to create a fake. more then I would pay but I'm grinch, https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/WW2-Japanese-Type-95-NCO-Sword/222687760837?hash=item33d93991c5:g:KZAAAOSwIJlZ6-vP, another version, price is abit high but a honest piece, https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Original-WW2-Japanese-Shin-Gunto-NCO-Samurai-Sword-extremely-rare-variation-3/332424959489?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D48795%26meid%3D4f20fff958304da4af55f1ba88fb7e90%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D222687760837&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851. Blade is 26 1/4 inches long, with an overall length of 36 1/4inches. Benefits CHARITY. The scabbard exhibits about 70% of its original olive brown. T95 NCO swords had copper hilts, or later, aluminum ones, never brass. the market. Please consider starting a new thread rather than reviving this one, unless your post is really relevant and adds to the topic.. Of the eight army arsenals active in the war only Kokura, Tokyo First and Nagoya were involved in the Type 95 program. These are simply paper spacers to aid in positioning the wrapping properly on the handle. If you cannot see this grain or do not know what to look for, assume it is carved bone, not ivory. age of a Japanese sword, seek advice from a reputable collector. But a small percentage made its way back to the United States and into the collector market. The best place to look is at the serial Numbers. The members here in the board who collect these swords are taking a very good investment for the future. I agree and have never been able to put it into words like you just did. Most swords do not have matching . C $1,999.99 . The fuchi collar at the base of the grip bears three stamped marks, these being the marks of the Iijima Copany, the group that manufactured the blade within the Tokyo Arsenal; the inspection stamp of the Imperial Army unit within the Tokyo arsenal that inspected the sword; and the Tokyo Arsenal identification stamp. . The machine-made blade is 26 inches long. This sword is actually pictured on page 191 of Dawson . This example has a matching serial number 55250 on both the blade and the throat of the scabbard. The 26 3/8 inch nagasa (cutting edge section) blade is in very The Mechanix of Auto, Aviation, Militarypert near anything I feel relates to mechanical things, places, events or whatever I happen to like. Most swords do not . This example has a matching serial number 55250 on both the blade and the throat of the scabbard. I can't get over the prices on these nowadays.. crazy, https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-WWII-Japanese-NCO-OFFICERS-SWORD-WITH-MATCHING-NUMBERS/253234351978?hash=item3af5f18f6a:g:wxsAAOSwAHtZ94Dm. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. There should be no characters etched on the blade, just a serial number. I do not think they will be able to make a perfect fake as there are too many small details right down to the materials used. The type and color of the rust is used to help date and to authenticate the blade. I just want an accurate reproduction. I would recommend you check with your original person who raised the concern about it's originality. Legal Notice - International Military Antiques, Inc observes all Federal, State and local laws. The scabbard is painted the correct green color, and the spacing from the top to the hanging ring is the correct 3 inches. Akunin Truly disappointing. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Japanese Arisaka Type 99 Last Ditch Complete Bolt With Matching Serial Numbers at the best online prices at eBay! Whether a blade is Didn't want to explain to much, because that sword copys get better and better. Serial number placement. Some older (Shinshinto) Slowly improving. Anyway, if ok, can I post some pictures to get your expert opinion on my purchase? Display as a link instead, Blade is 26.5 inches long, with an overall length of 36.5 inches. Matching serial numbers 31123. Obviously I can't be sure, but that's my guess anyway. By well it would have fooled me, how about you other gunto guys? Be sure to read Reproductions and Fakes. That is an important part of identifying the authenticity of an NCO. Blade is 26.5 inches long, with an overall length of 36.5 inches. is just ridiculous.They HAVE genuine ones to copy. As above100% fakejust look at the fit on the saya throatBut yes they are getting betterBought a sword at a recent big militaria fair,actually two swordsleft them with the sellers instead of carrying them around when I came to pick them up was approached by a very polite Chinese fella who offered to buy them at a premium off meHe didn't hide anything said he was sending them back to ChinaAt the end of the show he had bags fullhe looked like ' Buckin Bronco ' carrying them away ! Pre-Owned. 2- no screw is used as per T-95 usual fashion on the hilt but a special screw assembly located on the pommel and holed for the sword knot.
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